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PostPosted: 2015年 Jul 7日 01:49 
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I see quite a lot of people using it (and that is heartening) but I don't see any changes to the engine nor a lot of information from Tony about its future.

I regularly keep an eye out for Xwidget as I have always wanted to use it as a replacement for the Yahoo widget engine.

For the moment though, I still don't feel it would be wise to start to convert. When the devs of a product such as Xwidget goes quiet for such a long time it makes me seriously worried about its potential future. Are the devs simply not interested anymore/don't have enough time to work on it? Neither option is good.

If either of these latter options are the case then the engine should be made open source - or the product will die.


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PostPosted: 2015年 Jul 12日 13:59 
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:?: I hope I'm wrong but this was one of Tony's last posts...... read between the lines.

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Hi , Sorry for delay reply, because from 2015-2-16 to 2015-3-2 is the most important Chinese Holiday , I went back to my hometown, there is no network connection, So I found Jimking PM just a moment ago.
Installmonetizer is a big Professional provider of third-party software bundle,it can help we continue develop these fantacy Free software Full time, and pay for the fee of website host (homepage and widget download gallery) and domain name .
I've done a detailed test, you can click on the decline , and MUST uncheck to remove the check third-party installation. I think that there maybe some misunderstanding.

BUT , I think maybe yereverluvinuncleber is right , because We LOVE XWidget,She is like my baby... So I will remove the Installmonetizer from XWidget .
I will go to find another Full Time Job of development to Breadwinner and pay for fee of website host ,and I will do my best to continue develop XWidget2.0 in the time of off work .
Thanks to all the people that love XWidget , specifically thanks Jimking :)

Tony


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PostPosted: 2015年 Jul 19日 01:28 
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I wish Tony would just make the thing open source.

No updates means the thing is dead. It would be such a pity if it were to die...

Tony simply took the wrong path when it came to generating income. A good donation model and bringing in new developers to an open-source project is the path to keeping XWidget alive. An initial kick-starter to generate some income to fund the site and the gallery, then progressive crowd-funding to attain new goals.


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PostPosted: 2015年 Jul 23日 21:38 
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I am ready to host the forums and the wiki. :)

Going open-source will also remove a large load off out head, the biggest problem - hosting the XWidget binary somewhere where it won't pinch out bandwidth bill. Sites like github as absolutely free for open-source

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PostPosted: 2015年 Sep 8日 16:57 
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I have just sent an email to Tony requesting this - can you please do the same and urge Jim to do so too.


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PostPosted: 2015年 Nov 28日 07:36 
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Tony we need some updates, some information on the status of Xwidget and the progress of new development, perhaps visibility of the bug and feature list. We NEED this to see this sort of information:

A. To keep the community faith that updates ARE happening.
B. To let the world know that Xwidgets has a future and should be their RAD engine of choice.


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PostPosted: 2016年 Jan 25日 07:55 
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Tony just emailed me and he states again that he is working on Xwidget 2.0. No more news as yet but I hope that I will get another response shortly.


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PostPosted: 2016年 Feb 1日 09:51 
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Hi guys, i came to search for any news regarding XW 2, i see things are a bit quiet, perhaps Tony should go open source, that would be great for XW, but i understand letting go one's creation might be difficult.. if funding is the problem, how about a little crowd funding for the project (XW2)? KickStarter could be an option.
or donations like it was mentioned, i hope tony finds a way, XW has such potential!, its really a bummer to see it unrealized.

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PostPosted: 2016年 Feb 1日 10:58 
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Tony reported that he works on the v2.0 and that it will be ready in March. :)

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PostPosted: 2016年 Feb 2日 02:56 
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That is good news. Tony is very poor at self-publicity and disseminating news himself but it still good news.


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PostPosted: 2016年 Feb 2日 08:41 
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Excellent news! ;D

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Yes it is good news, I will bookmark the month into my internal memory banks for a spread the word campaign when the time draw near. - :)

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PostPosted: 2016年 Apr 1日 02:01 
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Xwidget should be open source. It's been a long time since there were any visible updates.
And its end of march

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PostPosted: 2016年 Apr 1日 10:05 
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Agreed.


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PostPosted: 2016年 Apr 1日 15:14 
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Yeah I really don't want to see it die.


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PostPosted: 2016年 Apr 2日 03:11 
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The closed nature of Xwidgets will always make the project closer to dying than surviving. Just one man holds the code in his hand, he makes few updates, releases no news, has no published roadmap, never responds on the forum. He has a forum that regularly glitches, a site that can go offline for days, his emails are seldom ever answered. This indicates a man who is too busy or I suppose just isn't that communicative. All of the above bodes not well.

I feel that we have the core of a team here that would help to promote/fix any issues that might arise if we were simply given the code on sourceforge or similar, if we could see the changes being committed as they were made, if there was a bug-list, if there was a road-map and we owned the means for the dissemination of information.

For instance, the site could do with a real makeover now. It has been static for years - that is normally the death knell of a site. Have a look at the Reactos site to see the good job they have done over the recent makeover. http://www.reactos.org - that site is 'alive'!

It would be great to have such a site for Xwidgets, showing the product is alive and well and thriving. People like Jim are the life blood of xwidget but this program really has a community of only one (Jim). The main player should be the developer but we have little proof that he is still active and lots of proof to the contrary.

I contribute and I would be much more of an active player too but my suggestions have only been listened to once - the removal of the malware - and I had to scream loud to get that.


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PostPosted: 2016年 Apr 3日 12:21 
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I know for sure that he's very busy in real life and that he travels a lot because of his work. The ''negative'' is that Tony is not a prof programmer and this is not his real job. But I agree that XWidget is became famous especially after its launch on Android and we should respect and don't disappoint all these fans.. I hope that he' s ok though..

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PostPosted: 2016年 Apr 4日 04:52 
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Then he should request our help...


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PostPosted: 2016年 Apr 24日 04:31 
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Latest pm from Tony: (24/4/2016)

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I am trying to port XWidget android project from Eclipse to AndroidStudio to add search function for the online gallery, this need some time :)

ps: I am develop xwidget2.0 to try to make the work of build widget more easy with actions (not need uses script).

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PostPosted: 2016年 Apr 24日 12:10 
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That is certainly news. Thanks for that Jim.

Some big changes expected - reading between the lines I am assuming more cores and more development of existing cores. It does worry me a bit that javascript is being sidelined. The cores might well have more interactivity but all the facility still needs to be available through scripting.

Not expecting an imminent release in the light of this though. If Tony tells you more please let us know,


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PostPosted: 2016年 Apr 26日 08:29 
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I'd love it if the ability to add our own Javascript remained, it's VERY useful.


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PostPosted: 2016年 Apr 27日 16:59 
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My guess is that we won't see another update for 6 months or more. If javascript is removed then the engine is dead as a serious widget engine for Windows. Let us hope he retains it. For Android it might have a future either way.


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PostPosted: 2016年 Apr 28日 03:10 
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XWidget will continue to support javascript yereverluvinun. The opposite. The v2.0 will support more than javascript. Tony try to give us more functions that the designer can handle it without the use of javascript.
And this is great! And I don't think that we have to wait so long..

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PostPosted: 2016年 May 4日 00:20 
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What is your guess with regard to the next substantial delivery? I reckon August-November at best.


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I don't know for sure.. I guess and I hope! We will see..

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PostPosted: 2017年 Jan 19日 13:50 
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Hi together!

Now we have the year 2017 and I am sad that there is no more update.
I use XWidget with WIN10 Pro 64 Bit and with occasional program crashes of XWidget.
Almost no more icons necessary and a gorgeous desktop through the many widgets.
Most programs can be launched through the widgets - a dream for me ...
There are so many combinations of the widgets: from side to side on top of each other,
one after the other, visible to invisible, with prioritization view, zoom and so on ...
I stay in any case with the XWidgets as long as it is possible!

Gerald from Germany

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Hallo zusammen!
Jetzt haben wir das Jahr 2017 und ich bin traurig dass es kein Update mehr gibt.
Ich nutze XWidget mit WIN10 Pro 64 Bit und mit gelegentlichen Programm Abstürzen von
XWidget. Fast keine Icons mehr nötig und einen wunderschönen Desktop durch die vielen
Widgets. Die meisten Programme lassen sich durch die Widgets starten - ein Traum für mich...
Es gibt so viele Kombinationsmöglichkeiten der Widgets: von nebeneinander bis übereinander,
hintereinander, sichtbar bis unsichtbar, mit Priorisierung Ansicht, zoomen und so weiter ...
Ich bleibe auf jeden Fall bei den XWidgets solange es möglich ist !!!

Gerald aus NES


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I think that you missed this topic Gerald 2016...
viewtopic.php?f=22&t=6503

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PostPosted: 2017年 Jan 23日 14:04 
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regarding ...I think that you missed this topic Gerald 2016...

Hello Jimking,

thank you for your answer, but i don't understand (maybe my english is too bad...) ...

Am i right that Xwidget 2.0 replaces version 1.9.3 or include Xwidget 2.0 the version 1.9.3
or is Xwidget 2.0 a newer version of 1.9.3 ?
I think that both versions are different programs which Xwidget 2.0 changes the desktop
background with animated pictures or movies but xwidget 1.9.3 allows to change the widgets
and use different programs by click the widget.
Or is it possible to use and change/edit the widgets with Xwidget 2.0 ???
If so then i will spend a lot of time more to learn more about Xwidget 2.0 !
If not then i will use version 1.9.3 as long as it works with WIN10.
There's no necessary for me to change the background but I'm using a lot of widgets and it
should be possible to make it stable for WIN10, isn't it?
Will the program (version 1.9.3) further developed at all or is it stopped completly?
Using the internet to get an answer isn't helpful because i found no answer but my impression
is that it was stopped in the year 2012 ???
If so then :-(

Kind regards,

Gerald 2016


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The lastest version of XWidget is uploaded on 2.3.21015 (!)
http://xwidget.com/ver.html

For now the v2.0 of the program is in beta fase and you can test it here:
viewtopic.php?f=22&t=6503

It's the next version of the same program. Logically the new version will replace the old one but it will have full compatibility with the v1.9.xx widgets.
The animated addition of the designer is just one of the extra features of the program but we will still can create widgets as before. But working on a new redesigned XWidget designer. That's all.
I suggest you to download and test the beta version to see what I mean.

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PostPosted: 2017年 Mar 21日 03:47 
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yereverluvinuncleber wrote:
What is your guess with regard to the next substantial delivery? I reckon August-November at best.


March 2017 and still nothing. November 2017 now?


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